Faith & Calling | John Giftah | Vivian Williams (Iconic Worship) Interview (Part 2)

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0:49 Speaker 2: It's one thing to encounter guard and then you came

0:51 Speaker 2: through this sinisodic view and now you are doing this.

0:56 Speaker 2: So when the Lord asked you to start this ministry

0:59 Speaker 2: or just step into your calling, how did you have

1:02 Speaker 2: the faith to do that?

1:04 Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't. I didn't do it for I

1:07 Speaker 3: believe right, I believe for me. I was very.

1:12 Speaker 4: Obsessed with the with the word okay, And I remember

1:18 Speaker 4: once it was past even different in a current sermon

1:24 Speaker 4: okay actually written and I don't know how to preach

1:27 Speaker 4: a sermon. I was twelve thirteen years old, written it

1:30 Speaker 4: down on a paper piece of paper, and I wanted

1:34 Speaker 4: to preach it to my family.

1:35 Speaker 3: Okay, but some reason that didn't happen. Mm hmmm. So

1:39 Speaker 3: I always knew there's something.

1:41 Speaker 4: About the Word and God whated me doing And for

1:45 Speaker 4: so many years I had just neglect m once or

1:51 Speaker 4: twice in in some Christian settings, I've preached about God.

1:55 Speaker 4: But yeah, that was about it. I think God waited

1:59 Speaker 4: patiently some time. Then he just forced me into them. Okay, okay,

2:05 Speaker 4: because after my company I'd taken a small sabbatical. Mm

2:10 Speaker 4: and uh, I posted a real imagine. I posted a

2:13 Speaker 4: real It went viral, people asking me to start something

2:16 Speaker 4: in and the fourth I'm like, oh, I'm in ministry. Yeah,

2:21 Speaker 4: and now there's no going back. There's no going back

2:24 Speaker 4: your ministry or administry.

2:26 Speaker 2: So and that was Oh so God had a very

2:29 Speaker 2: unique way of like the way you said there was

2:32 Speaker 2: no going back. I was reminded of how the Shuldn't

2:34 Speaker 2: of Israel moved to the other side of the Red Sea,

2:37 Speaker 2: and the Red Sea parted for them to cross, but

2:40 Speaker 2: once they crossed, it closed there was no going back

2:43 Speaker 2: to correct So the Red Sea literally closed for you

2:46 Speaker 2: is like, you know what your ministry or a preacher

2:48 Speaker 2: guy start preaching, but when it comes to this aspect

2:53 Speaker 2: of faith, right, like you said, I was reminded of

2:55 Speaker 2: how you said that you wrote down a sermon and

2:58 Speaker 2: that's how you started. Like again, I say another similarity.

3:02 Speaker 2: So when I was younger, for me, typically thinking the

3:05 Speaker 2: Bible and reading would lead me to sleeping. Okay, So

3:09 Speaker 2: I had to find a unique way of feeding on

3:11 Speaker 2: God's word. So what I would do is I had

3:13 Speaker 2: to makeshift microphone that my brother made for me, and

3:17 Speaker 2: I would set up all the showcase glasses at different

3:21 Speaker 2: angles so that if I stand in a certain place,

3:24 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in a Benny hind Crusade like

3:26 Speaker 2: set up. I can see myself in all these big

3:28 Speaker 2: screens and then the television and all of these things.

3:31 Speaker 2: And I would take the Bible and I would act

3:33 Speaker 2: like I'm preaching and I'm studying the web. This is

3:36 Speaker 2: how I did it. So it was like a two

3:39 Speaker 2: in one. You know, God was shaping me as a

3:42 Speaker 2: you know, like preacher and speaker at the same time

3:47 Speaker 2: helping me feed on God's word. It was a very

3:49 Speaker 2: unique way that the Lord was shaping me and in

3:53 Speaker 2: your way also, right, like, in a very unique way,

3:56 Speaker 2: God has led you into that place of having that

3:58 Speaker 2: feed because even the other day when I asked you

4:01 Speaker 2: this question, I know you're planning to go to different countries.

4:05 Speaker 2: And the minute I I think, I asked you about

4:06 Speaker 2: Singapore because I've been there, and I was like, you know,

4:10 Speaker 2: this is a great opportunity for all I in club

4:13 Speaker 2: worn with you guys, and then you said I don't

4:16 Speaker 2: know where I'm going. Then I was like, isn't that

4:18 Speaker 2: like Abraham, right, you have that plan, you have that vision,

4:22 Speaker 2: but you don't know how you're going to execute it.

4:25 Speaker 2: You know, guys, you may be in a place where

4:27 Speaker 2: you're saying, John, I don't have all the details. You

4:29 Speaker 2: don't need to have all the details. You know, you

4:31 Speaker 2: take the first step, and God is going to lead

4:33 Speaker 2: you one step along the way. He's going to take this,

4:37 Speaker 2: He's going to lead you step by step.

4:39 Speaker 3: No.

4:40 Speaker 2: I was reminded of how even in the Book of Genesis, right,

4:43 Speaker 2: God told Abraham I want you to leave the place.

4:46 Speaker 2: But God doesn't tell which is the promised land. And yes,

4:50 Speaker 2: the interesting thing, right, the Bible says he moved, he

4:52 Speaker 2: started moving towards Canaan. And if you see in Hebrews eleven,

4:57 Speaker 2: also his father Terra actually started moving to it's Canaan

5:01 Speaker 2: even before God actually called it as the quote and

5:04 Speaker 2: quote promised land. You see, it was then natural instinct

5:08 Speaker 2: to move towards Canaan. Like it comes down to that

5:10 Speaker 2: place where you know, if it is part of your calling,

5:13 Speaker 2: you can't run from it, Like it's something that's like

5:17 Speaker 2: your natural instinct, you know what I mean. Like, you know,

5:21 Speaker 2: ever since I was younger, I used to write these

5:23 Speaker 2: Scooby Doo stories and all of these things. Nobody put

5:26 Speaker 2: a gun on my head and made me write. But

5:29 Speaker 2: those are the things that like I can't be quiet.

5:31 Speaker 2: I have to do something.

5:32 Speaker 3: You know.

5:33 Speaker 2: That's what translated in me to what I'm doing right now,

5:37 Speaker 2: you know. So likewise, I just challenge you guys that

5:41 Speaker 2: if there are areas in your life that the Lord

5:43 Speaker 2: is worthing something or stirring something and you can't run

5:47 Speaker 2: from it, don't be like Jonah. Right. If God is saying,

5:52 Speaker 2: you know, I want you to go in this direction,

5:54 Speaker 2: go in that direction. If you go in the opposite direction,

5:56 Speaker 2: it will end up in a very bad shape. So

6:00 Speaker 2: do you have anything else that you want to talk

6:02 Speaker 2: about how that faith keeps you going in this.

6:06 Speaker 4: One thing about iconic worship is we run on three

6:10 Speaker 4: things coffee, Uh huh, only spirit and faith. Nice, Okay,

6:17 Speaker 4: So the reason is even you were there in the

6:19 Speaker 4: first iconic word. Yes, you know what happened towards the end, right,

6:23 Speaker 4: I know, I know the people are chasing.

6:24 Speaker 3: Us, chasing us.

6:25 Speaker 4: Yes, they got chasedst iconic worship. So we had it's

6:29 Speaker 4: fida a venue. We went over close to forty to

6:33 Speaker 4: fifty churches in seven days, okay, asking them mere Christians,

6:37 Speaker 4: which is on a worship God together worship God. We

6:42 Speaker 4: didn't know until the end we got a venue, okay, cool.

6:46 Speaker 4: Then next week until Friday evening venue. I think for

6:51 Speaker 4: the first thirty thirty five weeks, it's always a struggle

6:56 Speaker 4: to get you. Every time it does the last day,

6:57 Speaker 4: the last day, the last day, the last day, one day. Roma,

7:01 Speaker 4: We've got a venue on Saturday morning, six thirty five am,

7:04 Speaker 4: and I got it. Worship starts at Salmon and mm hmmm.

7:08 Speaker 4: So and every time we're like, we know we have

7:10 Speaker 4: a place to worship. We don't know where, but we.

7:12 Speaker 3: Know God provide. We know God provide. We keep moving.

7:16 Speaker 4: We had two major events, Freedom Evening and for Christmas Cannivals.

7:19 Speaker 4: So those are the events. It's gonna happen every years.

7:23 Speaker 4: The Freedom Evening also ven we got three days before

7:26 Speaker 4: the event. Oh my goodness, we got people we had to.

7:29 Speaker 4: We went to Church Street by Faith and called people

7:31 Speaker 4: from join the event. For Christmas Carnivals, Charles Ground, we

7:35 Speaker 4: got it like nine days before the event.

7:36 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. So you know it's all about faith,

7:41 Speaker 3: you know.

7:42 Speaker 4: And when God call out Moses, his answer was here

7:49 Speaker 4: I am, that's all. And he said, when God called

7:55 Speaker 4: out Moses, his answer was just here.

7:57 Speaker 3: I am. Nothing about uh this some excused, this is

8:00 Speaker 3: very instructed.

8:02 Speaker 4: Here I am. Same thing with Abraham. Here I am.

8:06 Speaker 4: When when God asked Isaiah, who will go here? I am,

8:10 Speaker 4: Lord send me. So God cares about where you are.

8:14 Speaker 4: When you say where you are, your willingness to come

8:16 Speaker 4: out of it. So that's about it. Iconic worship is

8:19 Speaker 4: run by a phase. The world tour has going to

8:22 Speaker 4: cost us two million US dollars, Oh my gosh. Okay,

8:25 Speaker 4: and we don't even have like zero point zero zero

8:29 Speaker 4: zero one person of it in the bank and it's

8:31 Speaker 4: it's starting from the day to day, six days from now,

8:36 Speaker 4: the indiator is starting. Okay, and even for the India tour,

8:39 Speaker 4: we don't have the exact amount of money required and

8:41 Speaker 4: just figuring out a few things here and there. And yeah,

8:45 Speaker 4: so God just have once a willingness. Plan is his Yeah,

8:49 Speaker 4: you know, plan belongs to him. When the thing in ministry,

8:55 Speaker 4: especially right is the mindset with what people should have

8:59 Speaker 4: is Lord, you called me your response, not me.

9:03 Speaker 3: That's the arrogant Faid's talking about.

9:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is what I tell you God, I today,

9:07 Speaker 4: if we don't have a place to worship, I will

9:09 Speaker 4: put a message or no place to worship.

9:11 Speaker 3: Your name is going to get spoiled hot mine your name.

9:14 Speaker 4: You called me very like, you know, straightforward, God, you

9:19 Speaker 4: called me, You provide.

9:20 Speaker 3: I know you'll provide. You know. That's that arrogant fate,

9:24 Speaker 3: stubborn face they call it. Right.

9:25 Speaker 2: So that's so good, guys, I really encourage you to

9:29 Speaker 2: have that kind of faith. And also if you're let

9:32 Speaker 2: to support this ministry, iconic worship ministry, you can definitely

9:37 Speaker 2: reach out and support in whatever way, whether it's finances

9:42 Speaker 2: or through prayer. I really want you to support them financially. Also, yeah,

9:46 Speaker 2: a lot of things people they say, oh, I'll pray

9:48 Speaker 2: for you, Like, Okay, that's great, but you need that

9:52 Speaker 2: financial thing.

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