Final Thoughts, Fun & Prayer | John Giftah | Vivian Williams (Iconic Worship) Interview (Part 8)

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0:49 Speaker 2: What is this one message or word like? I think you are saying that God has been speaking to you in a different way, different opening in terms of the revelations.

0:59 Speaker 3: What is that that's beating in your heart?

1:01 Speaker 4: I think they started from starting of the z around February March. So I just want to ask you a line of questions. If you're okay with that, which one? I want to ask you a few questions?

1:15 Speaker 5: Okay?

1:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, go ahead? Yeah?

1:18 Speaker 5: So Adam right, Adam had the glory of God? Correct? And how do you lose it? He is the glory when he.

1:32 Speaker 3: Started relying on himself.

1:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, the sin, yes, correct, because the Bible says for all I have sinned and send and the glory of right.

1:42 Speaker 2: So Adam, I was trying to give answer, but it's very simple answer.

1:50 Speaker 4: So Adam had the glory of God. Yeah, it was covering him. Yeah, then his sin correct and then after he said, what happened to the glory?

2:04 Speaker 5: He lost it? Yeah?

2:05 Speaker 4: So Adam had the glory, he sinned, he lost it. He lost it and became naked. He realized it was naked. Yeah, before the glory is to cover its naked. Agree with me. Yeah, it's like an ad it. Adam the glory, had the glory, says I sin he lost it. He sinned, lost the glory and became naked.

2:29 Speaker 5: Naked.

2:30 Speaker 4: Now, if you think about what Jesus did, he left his glory, he became naked on the cross, he took on sin. Yeah, and he restored the glory. Mmm. Like the same way humanity lost this glory. It's the same way Jesus restored the glory, you know. And that's very astounding to me. That's very beautiful to me, because you know,

3:06 Speaker 4: when people talk about dramatic experiences or movies being so badass, right.

3:15 Speaker 5: If I could use that word.

3:16 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's fine.

3:17 Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's so beautiful.

3:21 Speaker 4: The same way like where Adam left off is where Jesus picked up. Yeah, right, and talking about glory and sin. Right, one more thing that came to me. So we established glory and sir. Now, if you think about it, we got that. We got the glory back only because of Jesus. In other words, it's God's grace. Yeah, we agree with me. It's God's grace. Is because of his grace, we've got access to his glory all. But again, now you know there are two kinds of grace, salvation grace and grace to do more. I want to talk about grace to do more?

4:08 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, the Bible says he opposes the gives grace to the humble, correct. I want I want to ask you why gives grace to the humble? Why only humble?

4:25 Speaker 5: Why not give.

4:26 Speaker 4: Grace to the ones who are kind, who are lovable, who who heals the sake, who raised the dead, speak in tongues, who build churches?

4:36 Speaker 5: Those are the things? Yeah, why do the humblest? Specifically? Not sure? There are a lot of other characteristics, Why only humility if.

4:48 Speaker 3: I'm not sure?

4:49 Speaker 4: Now he said he gives grace to the humble. Yes, why do you require God's grace.

4:58 Speaker 3: To keep going? I'm getting better?

5:01 Speaker 5: Yeah? Awesome?

5:02 Speaker 4: And what was God's grace an answer to the s of the world. Yeah, So when sin came, God answered with grace grace. So when humans sinned, God gave grace. Yes, yes, and til today when we sin, it's because of his grace we don't fully stumble and fall down.

5:23 Speaker 5: Yeah. Correct.

5:24 Speaker 3: True.

5:25 Speaker 4: When you talk about sin, what is the first sin in the Bible? Eating of the apple? Or didc Obedian.

5:34 Speaker 5: First sin before that?

5:36 Speaker 4: Lucifer sprite? He was so proud, proud? Yeah, so proud is the first sin. And God's answer to sin is grace, and he gives more grace to those who are humble. So the last part, humble humility is directly opposite of what Satan did. Oh wow, okay, being prideful. So each time we are humble, we move God. We move God's heart because each time we are humble, we did it opposite of what wow, and it moves his heart. And the season, the message for the season which we are also writing a few songs about an iconic worship which came out during these perfectic times of speaking in tangs and everything is Let the glory of God invade the city.

6:28 Speaker 4: Wow, Let the glory of God invade the sin of the city. That's all we're talking about for the past two three weeks. Now, Okay, I think we have the song coming up. Let Heaven in aid and darkness flee. Let Heaven invade and darkness fee. Let Heaven invade and darkness free. And we believe that the song of the season. So so yeah, that's something deep in our heart for the past couple of weeks, in a couple of months. And the best part about it is people are seeing visions about the same thing. Wow, God is talking about the same things.

7:05 Speaker 4: A lot of people people writing songs about the same thing. So this is the theme. Let God's glory invade the sin of the city, and correlation between how how Adam lost the glory and how Jesus restored the glory in the same way, and a season of how do we get access to His grace? More and more is being being humble? Why humble?

7:29 Speaker 5: God is being humble? In school?

7:32 Speaker 4: So no, it's the reason why it's humble because God's again.

7:39 Speaker 5: Right and anyway, Yesterday rested.

7:43 Speaker 4: In iconic worship, this is line and beautiful name by him song it says he silenced the voice the boast, Oh yeah, the post. He silenced the boast of sin and grave. So this entire feud, this entire fight, is entire confusion between God and Satan started with Satan being rightful and Jesus ended by humbling sitting on the cross.

8:16 Speaker 4: So the entire season is this is a message that's been echoing in the absent minds of people in iconic version.

8:23 Speaker 2: That's so powerful, it's so powerful, like it's amazing. How how did you get into this? Like this whole revelation? Like how did it a birth?

8:33 Speaker 4: So when when I read the Bible right, I spend like four five hours giving a message for five hours previous night and during the day during the week at least two three hours per day. And each time God speaks to me about something, I catchure verse and I start praying about it. That skirt give me more three or and either got speaks to me in causes revelation or he asked me to open the Bible to a specially course and that was when we're kind of turing this source. Yeah, so it's all through just being more intimate with like how you told it, Yeah, getting lost being intimate with and with God.

9:18 Speaker 2: Guys, this is one of the things I always tell people, Like even for me, I think it was in twenty twenty when the kind of revel like you said, this was a brand new revelation, and even for me, Scott's opening up new new revelations, Like even yesterday in church, I spoke about this, how like a brand new revelation of alliance in the Bible, like how Samson, David and Daniel all faced lions. Samson and David in their case they had this strength or the skill to face the line. But Daniel did not have either of that to face the line.

9:50 Speaker 2: And in this case God fought the line for him. Or you know, it was like like I've never heard kind of a revelation like that. You know, like anything I any scripture, I take, any passage I take, God would take me to a place where, looking at it differently, not heard anybody preach about it. There's this passage in now I think Jeremiah thirteen about Jeremiah getting his luxury belt. Actually, you know, it was a like the message is totally different, but the revelation that God gave me through that about how he didn't even use this luxury belt.

10:25 Speaker 2: Actually okay, I have a another sermon on it. But God was allowing him to get it and it gets wasted. But God was like, how much he trusted me and bought this luxury right. It's like if today God says buy a BMW car and you know.

10:42 Speaker 3: Like let it go into ruins, will you do it?

10:44 Speaker 2: You'll say, let me get an abandoned BMW or let me get you know, some low cost car or something.

10:50 Speaker 3: You know, So like this, God says changing things.

10:54 Speaker 4: You know.

10:55 Speaker 2: One of the things I always tell people is like, maybe I'll put the image of some of my Scooby to collections on the screen. I say, it's the same Scooby Doo, but I have different things here. You see your doll, but I have Scooby do Pendrie too, brush, I have like a headphone holder.

11:09 Speaker 3: I have so many things, you know, your phones.

11:13 Speaker 2: So it's the same Scooby Doo, but to fit the requirement, it changes, you know what I mean, Like the pendrive will be of this size.

11:22 Speaker 3: Imagine if the pendrive was of this size, it would be stupid.

11:24 Speaker 5: Right.

11:25 Speaker 3: So it's the same word of God.

11:27 Speaker 2: But to meet us in our personal way, in our journey, God is going to speak like the revelation that you God is so unique to you. The revelation that God's giving me, the kind of revelations is giving ways so unique to me, and like that every one of you is watching listening. God was to give me unique revelations, you know what I mean, Like because because I'm bored of the same old stuff, you know what i mean, Like, I'm sure the world is bored to like the same thing over and over, you know. Like sometimes one of the most burring services in them mainline churches would be to go to a what is this thing?

12:04 Speaker 4: Man?

12:05 Speaker 2: A good Friday service, you'll hear the same seven verse from the Cross and the same thing Jesus forgave, Now go forgive. I'm like, I know it is already, you know, Like I want something new and God wants to give something new.

12:18 Speaker 4: Actually that's saying yeah, that's a written word of God, and there's spoken word on God.

12:25 Speaker 3: Yes, the Emma word. That makes a huge difference.

12:28 Speaker 2: Even for me, there was a huge revelation God gave me about the difference between time and eternity. For that, the revelation was a few scriptures including John one one that are meditated not John one, Genus is one one like that are meditated on for like three months. Like most people would be like, Oh, I come on, get over it.

12:49 Speaker 5: No, Genesis is one one jus.

12:50 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

12:51 Speaker 2: In the beginning, God created the events and the earth like a huge twenty five minutes sermon or about eternity, like with the four dimension and all of these things. Like I've not heard preach people preach about it or teach about it, but you know it comes from that meditation. Like sometimes we just take scripture and be like, oh, I know Genesis one one and then skip to the next. But can you take Genesis one one and meditate on it for three months? Like that takes another level altogether. We knew how, you know, learn from God.

13:20 Speaker 2: Okay, So now it's a moment for a little bit of fun. Okay, before I go into the actual stuff, I also write some stupid jokes. Okay, So let me come up with some of the stuff that I did about why do you think the worship pleader named her child as halle do yah.

13:41 Speaker 3: Since you're into worship, so I just pro yes. So if a chemistry teacher led worship, what song.

13:54 Speaker 5: Would that be? Chemistry teacher?

14:03 Speaker 4: Uh?

14:05 Speaker 3: I haven't.

14:06 Speaker 2: So the song is how great is Gone? I'm gone see with me? Yeah, so there's a one fun element. Okay, I'm going to play some a little bit of audio and let me see how quickly you guess the name of the song.

14:28 Speaker 1: Yeah.

14:29 Speaker 3: I think the first one.

14:30 Speaker 5: Is very easy. And who am I?

14:40 Speaker 3: Yeah?

14:40 Speaker 4: You're right?

14:42 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, right to casting grounds.

14:45 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, let me see this one.

14:50 Speaker 5: Than wait, let's hit let it come to the main fact. Hey then.

15:09 Speaker 3: Then then then.

15:19 Speaker 2: I know this sore.

15:22 Speaker 4: Still didn't get an elevation yes, and by Maverick City Elevation version. No, it's called being So Good, Being so Good? Okay, Okay, it's I think a one year old song askay okay by Tiffany Hudson. The name is not given character and not Tiffany.

15:44 Speaker 2: The songwriters are Stephen for Take, Chandler Moore and Brandon.

15:48 Speaker 5: Leeke Okay, okay, ok other song.

15:52 Speaker 3: Okay, now putting one of my favorite songs, HM.

16:12 Speaker 2: Like no idea Okay, So I listen to my One of my favorite go to is lake Wuid Music Liquid music. Yes, yeah, their church, Lakewood Music. You should check out some of their songs. There's been set. I think they started since like last one to two years. Their songs have been really really impactful, Like this one particular song even here, even now, it's one of my favorites. This is like always every line is straight out of scripture. There's another song on I Surrender not I Surrender something about surrender like it just like it's like heart connect kind of thing.

16:52 Speaker 2: And one more about connecting with the Holy Spirit. It's been like very very helpful. So if you're not checked out, I'll share the links. I'm sure it will bless you. I don't know they produise music, Yeah, they started. I'm the one advocating for it because to a lot of people I've made recommending because.

17:13 Speaker 3: It's been such a blessing for me.

17:17 Speaker 5: I thank God.

17:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you should thank God.

17:22 Speaker 4: At least two songs correct, This last one is very very simple, so good, so good.

17:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right.

17:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, at least you got like three out of so. When I interviewed Precruity, it's this. I gave song cues and she had to find a song like in some music. I just told the line from her song and she had to find the song.

17:47 Speaker 3: She found all of them.

17:48 Speaker 4: I think that you could have more then the music because beings so good that.

17:59 Speaker 5: The introvers so good to me.

18:05 Speaker 4: It goes that way, so that that was the main part of the song, I would have you would have found out, uh, I say, played part right?

18:18 Speaker 3: Yeah?

18:18 Speaker 5: Sure, yeah.

18:21 Speaker 2: For this I took the help of my brother. Actually, I think that's the one. She found all of them. U. Similarly, when I interviewed a girl she on a topic was on gen Z's. So I gave like gen Z words and she has to find a meaning of it. She didn't find any of them, and so I was like, I need to strike the balance of not making it as easy as Precruti and not making it as stuff as this our name is. So it's like, okay, the balance. Yes, iconic worship in general is into the nominational right. And we spoke about criticisms and all of these things happening.

19:00 Speaker 2: How do you deal with you know, a place where you have people have different denominations coming together. I'm sure there will be somebody stirring up something. Why are they speaking in tongues? I don't believe in tongues? Or why do you apply spend so much time singing? I love dancing. So people have a hundred things to fight and debate about, like have you come across such issues and how do you deal with it issues?

19:25 Speaker 5: For example, speaking in tongue is an issue.

19:28 Speaker 4: People tell that being a little more foot to where some people tell that women have to cover that heir and all of these things. And our thing is, while we accommodate every denomination, we follow the Bible says. So over there they're very like, we don't compromise on those values. We don't make ridiculous the rules I gave you don't compromise on values. Yeah, and we stand from to that. People who are accommodative of that, they stay. People have a problems, usually you and at the end of the day, right, even gess couldn't make everyone happy.

20:03 Speaker 5: Yeah, so we just right people.

20:07 Speaker 3: Just okay, that's so good.

20:10 Speaker 2: I was reminded of how even when Jeeves healed somebody, people.

20:13 Speaker 3: Created a trouble.

20:14 Speaker 2: So no, even if you like, okay, just saying this, like President Um said, is like even if I find the cure for cancer.

20:22 Speaker 3: People are going to criticize me.

20:24 Speaker 2: You know, no matter what you do, no matter how good you are, people who want to criticize and create trouble are going to do that. And that's a very good approach. Like you know, this is the standard, and we're going to go with that standard as well. So how can people stay connected with Iconic Worship?

20:41 Speaker 3: And how can they?

20:42 Speaker 4: No more?

20:43 Speaker 3: Do you have the website or we have a.

20:45 Speaker 4: Website, but most of our updates are on our WhatsApp group What's Up Community group?

20:50 Speaker 5: What's Up? Community? Okay, so if you got to our.

20:53 Speaker 4: Instagram Iconic Worship on Instagram, the link in bio this is What's Up community a call, updates are portioned there.

21:00 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the best way to stay connect, guys.

21:03 Speaker 3: I want you to do that. Not now.

21:04 Speaker 2: At the end of the session, we put all the links and everything in the description. I'll shared all of that with you. I get it from you. So last, but not least important question, any thoughts or words you have, any message towards me, the ministry and the podcast.

21:24 Speaker 4: I think it's high time we start running for our lives. What do I reamer that I like to end with the story.

21:37 Speaker 5: There was a.

21:39 Speaker 4: Big dog and a small rabbit in a forest, and this big dog sees the small rabbit and starts going toward the small rabbit. Small rabbit realizes that something is coming towards it, it starts also going away from the dog. Find dog was like, okay, cool, I'm going to run. Sorry, running, running, runing, running, learning running. The rabbits run, So the intense chase between the dog and the rabbit intense chase. Finally, the rabbit goes inside a hole and the big dog comes near the hole and starts crying, starts weeping, starts sweeping.

22:24 Speaker 4: So the small rabbit just popped out of the hole, didn't come out fully.

22:28 Speaker 5: Why it is crying?

22:29 Speaker 4: So the dog told, I'm ten times bigger in size, my legs are so tall. You're nothing compared to me. But I lost to you. The rabbit was something very interesting. The rabbit told you were running for your lunch and I was running for my life.

22:48 Speaker 5: Oh that's what made me win.

22:52 Speaker 4: And I think if we as people, as Christians, ask ourselves this question, are you running for our learning, for our launch of our life? I think we can change a lot of how we do things, a lot of decisions. We take a lot of choices we make. So I think I would like to end with that.

23:12 Speaker 3: That's good. That's so good, so good.

23:15 Speaker 2: Any thoughts or words for the ministry in particular ministry, do you like? Yeah, like any prophetic word or anything that you want to.

23:25 Speaker 4: I was actually a world had come to me yesterday in Isaiah fifty seven five I fifty seven five is fifty seven that chapter.

23:38 Speaker 5: Fifty seven in the said company yesterday, okay, And I didn't know whom to give it too. But in Isaiah fifty p.

23:52 Speaker 4: Seven, verse fourteen, and it would be said, build up, build up, build up, build it up, prepare the way, take every obstacle out of the way for my people.

24:09 Speaker 3: Amen.

24:09 Speaker 5: So I'm not to bless you with that fating word.

24:13 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, thank you. Is there something that we can pray for you.

24:20 Speaker 4: The world tour, the world tour the unity, or in iconic worship with churches in Bangalore And.

24:30 Speaker 5: That's about it soon, okay.

24:32 Speaker 2: So you usually end with like, I pray for the guest, and then I ask you to pray for me, the ministry as well as the audience. Eventually, Lord, we come to you this day and we thank you for this time to give in to us, and thank you for the flu thank you for the way you led us.

24:50 Speaker 5: Lord.

24:50 Speaker 3: We believe that you know this will be a great blessing.

24:54 Speaker 5: Lord.

24:54 Speaker 2: We didn't do this for virality. We did this to create impact. We want lies to touched and transformed. And I thank you for bringing Vivian here. And I thank you for his heart to spread your word and to obey your calling and your leading. And you know, Lord, I pray the name of Jesus, even as he steps out by faith. I pray that this Iconic Worship team and the entire endeavors that they plan to travel across the globe. God, you're going to help them travel nations in the name of Jesus. Lord, You're going to help them reach new places that are actually unheard of in the name of Jesus.

25:37 Speaker 2: Lord, I don't know why that specific word is coming, like places that you even normal people would not have heard of, like if you say London or New York. Everyone says, I know this, But let Iconic Worship also travel to places where normal people wouldn't think of going. Lord, let such doors open for them in the name of Jesus. That they will shut. I'm the light in darkness in the name of Jesus. I speak unusual doors to open, uncommon favored to surround them, and they're going to step into levels that they can't even imagine.

26:12 Speaker 2: The Lord is again reminding me of how God opened the door for Joseph from somebody out of his contacts, that is the Pharaoh. I speak doors that will open outside your league, outside your contacts, that will be a blessing in the name of Jesus. And I also say finances flowing. And I don't know, like it's just you know scene in like movies where you know, like in a fun way from a vacuum cleaner something this comes out. That's the way God is just vacuuming or bringing in money into you. Like I don't know, it's a very weird analogy, but that's the image I want you to have in mind, Like you don't know how it's happening, but God is bringing there's provision for your vision in the name of Jesus, Lord of Blessed, And I pray that his heart for unity, God, you will bring that unity.

27:04 Speaker 2: We can't make that happen. He can stand and say this is my plan. This is my calling, but it is you who will draw men towards the vision. And I pray that you will do it, and you will bless him in the name of Jesus. Bless his family, Bless everybody connected with iconic worship, every single individual. Bless them and use them for a mighty name of Jesus Christ.

27:29 Speaker 3: Amen.

27:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, and your father as summoned John, not his ministry into my hands. I pray that your plans alone will prosper. Your plans for him to prosper. Lord, you knew John before he was created in the mother's womb, before the creation of the world. Lord. You near him, Lord, and the plans you had for him, Lord, I pray that it will alone prosper break every obstacle great plan of the enemy that is coming against his life his ministry, I break every obstacle. Lot. I pray that only your plans take control of his life.

28:12 Speaker 4: You venues new collaborations,

28:19 Speaker 4: a new country slot, jess Amen.

28:22 Speaker 5: Prayer that his testimony from today will shock the world.

28:33 Speaker 3: Amen.

28:33 Speaker 4: His testimony, his lifestyle, the heights you want him to reach will shock the world.

28:42 Speaker 5: Lord Jesus, Amen, thank you, Lord, thank you for everything. Gee's name I.

28:47 Speaker 3: Pray for Amen.

28:49 Speaker 4: Amen.

28:50 Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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